Hey everyone I hope you can hear me Dr. Leigh here from Your Vet Online and
tonight I thought I'd share with you some of my little tricks and tips all
about vaccinating dogs... these little guys so while we wait for a
few people to join us I thought I'd introduce you all to Mordecai! He's a
little Frenchie puppy and he is I think he's 11 or 12 weeks old now and he's
been getting vaccinated too but he's a very he's very good he's actually not
mine here's my neighbour's but I'm his chief babysitter. So anyway let's talk
about vaccinating I know that a lot of you have been having a lot of questions
about vaccinating and can get quite confused about how ahhh how to go about it all
with not only your puppies but also older dogs and so one thing that I
thought I would help explain to you is exactly what the process is. So with
vaccinations what we're trying to do is there's a there's a core group of
vaccines and there's also a group of vaccines which are non core now the core
group we are trying to protect our dogs and our cats for that matter against the
diseases that our canine parvovirus canine adenovirus and canine hepatitis
Now those are the core vaccines now the actual that seems that our non-core are
the ones that are things like Leptospirosis and kennel cough and in America it
might be Lyme disease actually we just to put in for our American viewers
Rabies is known as a core vaccine for the Americans
anyway so when we vaccinate we want to make sure that we are doing the core at
the core diseases that cause disease in our pets and those are the really nasty
ones so it is the ones that can actually kill them so when we start vaccinating
and I actually see Hannah's written a little thing here why are most vets
ignoring the AVA in the WASAVA guidelines for core vaccinations in Australia?
Um I'm not sure why you think that they are ignoring them ahh the practices that
I've been in actually do do the guidelines , practice towards those guidelines so
Hannah if you want to just clarify a little bit exactly what the question is and how
they're actually ignoring those guidelines I'd love to know and then
maybe I can answer it a little bit better? Anyway so when we get a little
puppy and these little guys when they are born they actually receive maternal
antibodies from their mother what that means is that the mother passes on
through her milk antibodies against the diseases that she's either had and
experienced herself or that she's being vaccinated against. I'm just going to let this
little guy down for a bit he can have a hoon around and you see now the maternal
antibodies are passed on to the puppy and to help protect them when they're
really young now those antibodies can actually last up until they're about
16 weeks old and so that's why we have a period of vaccination that can be
anywhere from six starting at six weeks old going all the way to 16 weeks old
now if you live in an area that is has high numbers of Parvo virus then it's
you want to vaccinate and make sure that your last vaccination is as close to 16
weeks as possible otherwise the potential there is that
those maternal antibodies will interfere with how the vaccine causes the
immune response within that puppy so when we say that we've got we're going
to vaccinate our puppies we usually do three vaccinations and usually a month
apart they usually start between the age of six to eight weeks and carry on until
14 to 16 weeks and the reason why we need to keep boostering like that is
actually because of those maternal antibodies now he's got my duster he's
having a little play here now if you start at a later date like if let's say
you've just got a new dog and you vaccinate after the age of 16 weeks
it is not going to matter you don't need to do all those
vaccination boosters because the whole reason why you're doing those is
actually because of the maternal antibodies. Now the trouble where we get
into trouble is if some of the vaccine companies now have said that the last
vaccination can be performed at ten weeks of age. Now that's all very well
and good if you live in an area that doesn't have a lot of parvo or hepatitis
or distemper however the problem then becomes that when you do live in an area
where there is high risk some of those puppies still may have maternal
antibodies that have affect the way those that vaccine actually works for
them so there is a very small risk that you may actually still get those
diseases even though the company says it's fine
so that's why many vets actually choose to vaccinate more and
beyond the 10-week age just to ensure that you are, your puppy is going
to be protected now the other thing that we hear of
quite often is that should we be vaccinating every year? Now this is when
we get into the trickiness because some vaccines are have only got claims made
by the manufacturer that state that they are good to go only for one year
now if you're using a brand of vaccine like that then you to be protected you
need to do what the label says there are new vaccines out though that have
extended that claim to three years and so that means that you can once the dog
has had its primary vaccination course as a puppy it then is vaccinated as it a
year old and it can be it's good to go for another three years before it needs to
be vaccinated again. Now that's for the parvovirus, hepatitis and
adenovirus or what we call c3 vaccine. Where people I think are getting
confused and they think that vets are being a little bit dishonest is when
they say that vets are saying that they have to come in every year for a
vaccination. The the idea of coming in yearly is actually and to have a health
check more than anything and during that time and when the vet is talking to you
they'll get an idea of what you do with your dog so if your dog goes into
kennels if you frequent puppy play school if you're going to or if you go
to dog training groups some of those groups actually
have rules that say that you they demand that your dog is vaccinated against
kennel cough if that's the case it's a non-core vaccine and it doesn't have the
best immunity and it doesn't last for that long the immunity I mean so you do
have to give it every year the same goes for leptospirosis that's another
disease that's a bit the same so we in those situations we do we vaccinate
every year this little monsters doing monster things it's it's up to so hello
to Mordecai everyone anyway we um yes so that might be one of the reasons why you
think that vets are not being completely honest when it comes to when
it comes to actually saying that you're getting a vaccination yearly because
some dogs will get it and others won't but it's the one thing that's really
really important is that you do actually come and have a yearly examination with
a veterinarian regardless of whether you are and getting vaccinated for anything
at all so one of the the other things that what is Hannah saying here? They are
recommending annual repeat vaccinations instead of tri-annual with no timer test
I think you mean Titre test! Okay alright so I'm not sure who your vet is Hannah
but I'd say that it's quite unlikely to be happening um
if and the only reason why they might be doing a yearly vaccination is because
they are actually using a brand of vaccine that doesn't have a three-year
claim now your other part of your question which talks about titre
testing now that's a really good point so if you live in an area that is really
high risk for parvo and parvo is our main problem in this part of the world it
lasts in the environment for an awfully long time so it can last longer than
seven years and it's really hard to get rid of so it's a nasty nasty disease
that kills a lot of animals and the treatment is really really expensive so
um I I would say that that was our our main issue. Now Titre testing if you
live in an area that has a high risk of parvo so we know that places like Broken
Hill for example in Australia is really high prevalence of parvo virus I'd be
tempted to recommend a titre test at around 16 week or two weeks after the
dogs 16-week vaccination to check whether that dog has actually had a
response to that vaccination because generally speaking after that
vaccination the dog doesn't get vaccinated again until it's a a year
old and that means it's a very long time to be exposed if the vaccine hasn't
worked appropriately so titre test oh and if anyone doesn't understand what
titre testing is basically you taking a little bit of blood and you are
checking to see whether there are antibodies against the disease that you
have vaccinated against and for diseases like parvo virus we know that that's um
any sign of antibody means that we don't need to vaccinate again it's one of
those diseases that's very very clear evidence that if we see antibodies we're
good to go now if you see no antibodies and it's negative you need to vaccinate
very very clear rules on this one now as far as what you're saying Hanna about
whether we should be doing titre testing our older
dogs that's up to the vet ahh the vet and their client so if as a client you
prefer your dog to have a titre test before they're vaccinated that's
absolutely fine no one's going to be upset by that at all um and basically
yeah there's no problems with doing that at all now the dog is what are you doing
hmm you've been naughty come and say hello to
everybody say hello he hasn't had dinner yet I think he might be bit hungry
um you aren't allowed to lick me either say hello everyone so yeah so titre testing is a
really good idea um if you don't want to give too many vaccinations to your dog
it's also a good idea in the young ones to just make sure that we're not so that
they're definitely covered so we're not leaving them exposed in that time frame
between sort of four months old to a year old when if they had high levels of
maternal antibodies it's possible that they weren't covered appropriately.
That's a really good question. um What has Sarah asked here: Can a dog get kennel
cough from getting the vaccine to prevent it? Okay so kennel cough if
they've received the vaccination that is in the UM... what are you doing I think he
wants to leave the room um come here...um sorry I've just lost my train of thought there
so kennel cough okay so if they receive the vaccination up the nostrils
which is the intranasal form then yes there is a localized reaction in that
area and it and part of that is actually getting a very very very mild form of
kennel cough it's not a full-blown disease but it's just it's a very mild
form and it's basically creating enough to make sure the dog creates immunity
to that disease does it is it going to be bad
no is it going to make them extremely sick no I'm just going to let this
little guy out because he's having a meltdown you go and hang out here sorry guys
he was just going to have a meltdown there okay Hannah's ask another question I use a
holistic or integrative vet and the titre test only um all the vets are vaccinating annually
saying blah blah blah blah
oh I'm sorry to hear that Hanna I mean I I I think times of changing maybe the
veterinarians that they spoke to didn't understand so um yeah so yeah it's one
of those things I think times are changing you'll find that many vets will
start to Titre test more as our as our knowledge improves and also as
people start asking for it it's not going to hurt any animal to have a
vaccination every year there is it's just not going to hurt so there is no
such thing as over vaccinating in that sense. No worries Sarah! Right my vet is
only vaccinating every 3 years with C 3 yes now cats yes they are still only getting vaccinated yearly
and this has got to do with more with got to do with how the vaccine
is formulated and the response that the animal has to the vaccine so yeah cats
definitely they are still an annual situation it's a little bit like with
horses if we talk about horses as well we've got a vaccine like tetanus that
can last up to five years and we know that however
strangles it's only a year so you've got different vaccines different responses
to the body and so you have different reactions so yeah it really depends on
the vaccination so I hope that answers your question there are there any other
questions also I've added a little link up the top
that a little gift for you guys because I know how difficult it can be sometimes
when you go to the vet you have all these problems you want to talk about
all these things that happen with your pet and sometimes you just forget to
tell the vet so I've put a little link up there that says that if you hit that
it will take you through and you can download a little checklist you can
write it out all your little problems and that you have with your pet it
reminds you to write down things like what you're feeding them um any sort of
issues that they might be having at home and it just it's basically a chance for
you to be reminded about what's what's happening with them and so that you can
tell your veterinarian because regardless of whether an animal is
vaccinated every single year they do need a yearly um vaccination ahhh sorry
health exam. A yearly health exam is so important because it allows the
veterinarian to really see how your Pet in all aspects of their... their
body and well-being so we talk about their diet we talk about their behavior and we
talk about their we do a full clinical exam we make sure that they are able to
do the daily activities normally like how they still are they having problems
going to the toilet that might not be a problem with their urinary system at all
it could be a function of them having arthritis so it is it's really important
to consider seeing your veterinarian every year
for a health check. Anyways I hope this has been really helpful for you guys if
there's any more questions on vaccinations I do have the two links
up, I'll put those in them up so I think I might have put them in before and they
are papers that I've written that go into this a little bit more detail and
if you you can always ask us questions on the website yourvetonline.com and
I'll endeavor to get back and answer those questions there or you can ask
some more questions on this post and anyway I hope this was helpful I hope to
do this every Tuesday at 7 o'clock with a little topic so if you've got any
topics that you want me to talk about just give us a private message or put it
in the comments below and we'll get right onto it
all right then guys I hope you have a fabulous evening and I hope those
answered the questions about vaccinations for you alright
catch you later bye!
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