ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY
THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
JOYCE: WE'RE NOT A CONQUEROR BECAUSE WE NEVER HAVE TO DEAL
WITH ANYTHING.
WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS IF WE CAN DEAL WITH IT RIGHT.
DOING IT RIGHT.
[MUSIC]
JOYCE: DEUTERONOMY 28:7 THROUGH 14: "THE LORD WILL CAUSE
THE ENEMIES WHO RISE UP AGAINST YOU TO BE DEFEATED BEFORE YOU;
THEY WILL COME OUT AGAINST YOU ONE WAY, AND THEY WILL FLEE
BEFORE YOU SEVEN WAYS."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: C'MON, THE DEVIL MAY BE CHASING YOU RIGHT NOW BUT IF
YOU STAND FIRM AND CONTINUE TO BELIEVE GOD YOU CAN SAY TO HIM
RIGHT NOW, "YOU'RE COMING AGAINST ME ONE WAY BUT THE DAY'S
GONNA COME WHEN YOU'RE GONNA RUN AWAY FROM ME
SEVEN DIFFERENT WAYS."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: "THE LORD WILL COMMAND THE BLESSING UPON YOU IN YOUR
STOREHOUSES AND IN ALL THAT YOU UNDERTAKE, AND HE WILL BLESS YOU
IN THE LAND WHICH THE LORD YOUR GOD GIVES YOU.
THE LORD WILL ESTABLISH YOU AS A PEOPLE HOLY [AND SET APART] TO
HIMSELF, JUST AS HE HAS SWORN TO YOU, IF," OH GOSH, I WISH
THE "IF" WASN'T THERE.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, IN THE BIBLE WE SEE "IF" AND "BUT" A LOT.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOMETIMES MORE IMPORTANT WORDS THAN
THE REST OF WHAT WE'RE READING.
"IF YOU KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD YOUR GOD AND WALK
[THAT IS, LIVE YOUR LIFE EACH AND EVERY DAY] IN HIS WAYS."
NOW, THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY MADE MISTAKES THEY HAD TO MAKE
SACRIFICES TO MAKE UP FOR THOSE MISTAKES.
BUT GOOD NEWS, JESUS IS THE ONLY SACRIFICE THAT WILL EVER BE
NEEDED AND WHEN WE MAKE MISTAKES ALL GOD WANTS US TO DO IS
REALIZE IT, REPENT, NOT WANT TO DO IT AGAIN, AND HE'S TAKEN CARE
OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU'RE NOT PERFECT, I'M NOT PERFECT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE
MISTAKES.
AND HERE'S A PIECE OF GOOD NEWS.
A LOT OF TIMES WHAT PEOPLE SACRIFICE WHEN THEY MAKE
MISTAKES IS THEIR JOY.
YOU FEEL LIKE IF YOU'VE MADE A MISTAKE AND MESSED SOMETHING UP,
THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT NOW TO ENJOY YOUR LIFE.
WE GET INTO THIS SELF-INFLICTED PUNISHMENT.
WE BELIEVE OUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN BUT WE STILL WANNA CARRY
THE BURDEN OF GUILT.
WE THINK WE NEED TO FEEL BAD ABOUT OURSELVES FOR AT LEAST
A WHILE TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE WRONG.
WELL, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD GRIEVE OVER OUR SINS, THAT
THERE'S A TIME OF REPENTANCE AND MOURNING, BUT IF YOU WANNA
MAKE THE DEVIL MAD, WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG, WHEN YOU REALLY
MESS UP, AND HE COMES AROUND AND TRIES TO TELL YOU, WELL, EVEN
THOUGH YOU'RE SORRY AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE REPENTED, YOU
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENJOY YOUR LIFE, THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED
TO SAY, "YOU ARE A LIAR AND I AM GOING TO ENJOY MY LIFE BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT JESUS DIED FOR ME TO DO."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: DO YOU KNOW WHAT? THE DEVIL DON'T WANT YOUR STUFF.
HE WANTS YOUR JOY.
HE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND YOUR FANCY JOB.
HE'LL TAKE STUFF AWAY FROM YOU HOPING THAT YOUR JOY IS
CONNECTED TO THE STUFF AND IF YOU LOSE THE STUFF THEN YOU LOSE
YOUR JOY BECAUSE THE JOY OF THE LORD IS YOUR STRENGTH.
AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, I SAID TO SOMEBODY JUST
RECENTLY, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
I NEED TO LAUGH MORE.
I USED TO LAUGH MORE THAN I USED TO."
LAUGHTER MAKES THE DEVIL MAD.
HE DOESN'T WANT US TO ENJOY OUR LIVES.
VERSE 10: "SO ALL THE PEOPLES OF THE EARTH WILL SEE THAT YOU'RE
CALLED BY THE NAME OF THE LORD, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE AFRAID
OF YOU.
THE LORD WILL GIVE YOU GREAT PROSPERITY, IN THE OFFSPRING OF
YOUR BODY AND IN THE OFFSPRING OF YOUR LIVESTOCK AND IN
THE PRODUCE OF YOUR GROUND, IN THE LAND WHICH GOD SWORE
TO GIVE YOUR FATHERS TO YOU.
THE LORD WILL OPEN FOR YOU HIS GOOD TREASURE, THE HEAVENS,
TO GIVE RAIN IN YOUR LAND IN ITS SEASON AND TO BLESS ALL THE WORK
OF YOUR HANDS."
AND I LOVE THIS: "AND YOU WILL LEND TO MANY NATIONS, BUT YOU
WILL NEVER HAVE TO BORROW."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: I WANNA CHALLENGE YOU TO BELIEVE FOR SOMETHING
STARTING TODAY IF YOU'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET COMPLETELY, 100%, OUT OF DEBT
AND THAT YOU CAN LIVE AND NEVER HAVE TO BORROW MONEY.
HOW ABOUT THAT?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I THINK I'LL TELL YOU THIS 'CAUSE I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT.
IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT GOD AND HIS WORD.
I LEARNED HOW TO CONFESS THE WORD 40-SOME-ODD YEARS AGO.
BEFORE I EVER HEARD ANYBODY TEACH ON IT, GOD HAD ME
DOING IT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID EVERY DAY AND PROBABLY
STILL SAY MOST EVERY DAYS IS "I'M THE HEAD AND NOT THE TAIL,
ABOVE AND NOT BENEATH.
I LEND TO MANY NATIONS BUT I NEVER HAVE TO BORROW."
AND IT WAS JUST A CONFESSION FOR ME BUT THIS IS THE POWER
OF WORDS.
I CANNOT EVEN EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU BUT OUR MINISTRY, BY
THE GRACE AND THE MERCY OF GOD AND GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT
ON MY HUSBAND'S PART, WE HAVE NEVER BORROWED ONE PENNY.
NOT EVER.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: NOW I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG TO DO THAT.
GOD LEADS DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE ONLY PAYMENT WE EVER MADE WAS WE BOUGHT A USED COPY
MACHINE FROM A BAPTIST CHURCH FOR $500 AND WE MADE TEN
$50 PAYMENTS ON THAT TO PAY IT OFF
AND THAT WAS WITH NO INTEREST AND EVERYTHING ELSE DAVE WOULD
SAVE MONEY 'TIL WE COULD PAY FOR IT AND THEN HE'D GET IT.
NOW, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID, "I WANT IT NOW.
I'M GONNA BORROW THE MONEY AND PAY FOR IT LATER."
BUT HE HAD MORE WISDOM THAN ME AND EVEN THE BUILDING THAT WE
HAVE NOW, HE'D BUILD UNTIL WE RAN OUT OF MONEY AND THEN IF HE
HAD TO HE'D JUST WAIT A WHILE AND THEN WE WOULD BUILD
SOME MORE.
SO I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE PROMISES OF GOD ARE POSSIBLE FOR
US TO SEE THEM AS A REALITY IN OUR LIFE BUT WE HAVE TO
BELIEVE THEM.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU CAN BELIEVE RIGHT NOW TODAY THAT YOU
CAN SOMEDAY PAY CASH FOR YOUR NEW CAR?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: ALL RIGHT, "THE LORD WILL MAKE YOU THE HEAD AND NOT
THE TAIL; YOU'LL BE ABOVE ONLY, AND YOU'LL NOT BE BENEATH, IF
YOU LISTEN AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD
YOUR GOD, WHICH I'M COMMANDING YOU TODAY.
DO NOT TURN ASIDE FROM THEM, TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, NOR
SHOULD YOU FOLLOW OTHER GODS."
NOW, THAT'S THE TRUTH.
AND IF THAT WAS WORKING FOR THEM LIVING UNDER THE LAW, IF THAT'S
WHAT GOD PROMISED THEM UNDER THE LAW, I WANNA ASK YOU TODAY WHAT
KIND OF A LIFE DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE LIVING UNDER GRACE?
A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK TODAY ABOUT, "WELL, TITHING IS UNDER
THE LAW.
WE'RE NOT TO TITHE ANYMORE, THAT'S UNDER THE LAW."
AND I USED TO KIND OF WONDER WHAT TO SAY TO PEOPLE 'CAUSE I
DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER BUT GOD GAVE ME ONE.
IF THEY COULD TITHE UNDER THE LAW, WHAT IN THE WORLD
SHOULD WE BE DOING BY GRACE?
EVERYTHING WE HAVE BELONGS TO GOD AND WE SHOULDN'T PUT LIMITS
ON WHAT WE GIVE.
DON'T WORRY, I'M NOT GONNA DO ANOTHER OFFERING,
JUST CALM DOWN.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: SO IN EPHESIANS 6, PAUL TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT SOME
OF THEIR ARMOR WAS THE BELT OF TRUTH BUT HE SAID,
"TIGHTEN THE BELT OF TRUTH."
I LIKE THAT.
SO THAT MEANS WHEN YOU'RE IN A BATTLE, MAYBE YOU'VE GOT IT
UNDERLINED IN YOUR BIBLE BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TIGHTEN
THAT BELT OF TRUTH.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HOLD ON TO IT LIKE NEVER BEFORE BECAUSE
MAYBE NOTHING IN YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES LOOK LIKE IT'S
WORKING OUT THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD.
ANYBODY GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW IN YOUR LIFE?
MAYBE IT'S LIKE--WOW.
HOW MANY OF YOU GOT A BIG GIANT FOLLOWING YOU AROUND?
ALL RIGHT, I GOT SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN MY HEART THAT I
WANNA GET TO AND SO I'M GONNA SKIP OVER A LITTLE BIT HERE AND
MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T MISS IT.
YOU KNOW, TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS
THAT HAPPEN IN LIFE THAT I JUST DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO REALLY
GOOD PEOPLE AND I DON'T REALLY GET THAT OR UNDERSTAND IT.
DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, DOESN'T SEEM FAIR.
AND I FOUND MYSELF LAST WEEKEND PARTICULAR THINKING ABOUT SOME
OF THE REALLY DEDICATED, COMMITTED, GREAT PEOPLE THAT
I'VE KNOWN THAT ARE IN MINISTRY THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES TO
TEACHING AND PREACHING AND TRAVELING AND BEING MISSIONARIES
AND DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD, SPENDING THEIR WHOLE LIFE
HELPING OTHER PEOPLE.
AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THOSE PEOPLE OUGHT TO END UP
IN REAL VICTORY.
I THINK WE ALL DESERVE THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SINGLE OUT PEOPLE IN MINISTRY BUT, YOU
KNOW, WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE TO DOING WHAT IT TAKES WHEN
YOU'RE IN MINISTRY SERVING OTHER PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THAT
POSITION YOU JUST REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT TAKES.
AND THAT'S WHY I JUST GET SO AGGRAVATED WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO
JUDGE AND CRITICIZE PEOPLE IN MINISTRY WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE
ANY IDEA AT ALL ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE OR WHAT IT TAKES OR
THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: IT IS THE MOST DESPICABLE THING THAT ANY
BELIEVER CAN DO.
AND SO I HATE THAT 'CAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK AND, NO,
WE'RE NOT PERFECT.
WE DON'T DO EVERYTHING RIGHT BUT PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT THEIR
SPIRITUAL LEADERS AND THEY SHOULD PRAY FOR THEM AND BE FOR
THEM AND NOT AGAINST THEM. SO--
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I JUST BEEN THINKING ABOUT SOME THINGS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A ROUGH COUPLE OF YEARS JUST ONE THING
AFTER ANOTHER, TWO HIP SURGERIES, ONE BACK SURGERY,
THEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER AND IT GOES RIGHT INTO SOMETHING ELSE
AND YOU KIND OF GET TO, LIKE, "REALLY?
I MEAN, IF THIS IS ALL I'M GONNA DO, DO I HAVE TO BE FIGHTING
SOMETHING EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE IN ORDER TO DO IT?"
AND SEE, I BELIEVE IN BEING HONEST WITH GOD.
I THINK YOU GET A LOT FURTHER BEING HONEST.
DAVID NEVER--HE WASN'T BASHFUL AT ALL ABOUT TELLING GOD EXACTLY
HOW HE FELT.
HE WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, "NEVERTHELESS, MY FAITH IS
IN YOU," BUT I JUST DON'T GET THIS.
THIS JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE RIGHT.
AND SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT ONE MAN OF GOD I KNOW THAT HAS
LED LITERALLY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO THE LORD.
AND HE'S FIGHTING A BATTLE WITH CANCER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, "REALLY?
IS THAT THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD END FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT?"
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, GOD DOESN'T OWE US ANYTHING BECAUSE WE WORK
FOR HIM.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT EVERY PERSON IN MINISTRY HAS GOTTA GET
THROUGH THEIR HEAD, IS GOD DOES NOT OWE US ANYTHING.
WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO GET TO DO WHAT GOD HAS CALLED US TO DO.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO DO WHAT WE'RE
CALLED TO DO.
AND I THINK THE REAL TEST OF LIFE SOMETIMES COMES WHEN YOU
MINISTER SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY ELSE ALL YOUR LIFE AND THEN IT
JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S WORKING FOR YOU.
KATHRYN KUHLMAN SAW UNBELIEVABLE HEALING MINISTRIES AND SHE DIED
WITH AN ENLARGED HEART.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF YOU JUST ARE NOT GONNA FIGURE OUT.
BUT A COUPLE OF SCRIPTURES THAT I WANT US TO LOOK AT THIS
MORNING AND I THINK THIS'LL BLESS YOU AND YOU'LL GET A GOOD
LESSON OUT OF THIS.
THEY'RE BOTH IN ROMANS 8, AND THE FIRST ONE IS
ROMANS 8:35 THROUGH 37.
ROMANS CHAPTER 8:35 THROUGH 37: "WHO CAN EVER SEPARATE US FROM
THE LOVE OF CHRIST?
WILL TRIBULATION, OR DISTRESS, OR PERSECUTION, OR FAMINE, OR
NAKEDNESS, OR DANGER, OR SWORD?
BUT JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN AND FOREVER REMAINS, 'FOR YOUR SAKE
WE ARE PUT TO DEATH ALL THE DAY LONG; WE ARE REGARDED AS SHEEP
FOR THE SLAUGHTER.'" LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT
FOR A MINUTE.
HE'S SAYING, "LOOK, WE'RE GOING THROUGH STUFF AND TO OTHER
PEOPLE LOOKING ON, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TOLD HOW GREAT
GOD IS AND WHAT VICTORY WE HAVE IN OUR LIFE, AND YET IN OUR
CIRCUMSTANCES, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE LIKE A SHEEP BEING LED
TO THE SLAUGHTER.
YET RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE ARE MORE
THAN CONQUERORS--
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: THROUGH CHRIST WHO LOVES US.
WE'RE NOT A CONQUEROR BECAUSE WE NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH
ANYTHING.
WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS IF WE CAN DEAL WITH IT RIGHT.
DOING IT RIGHT.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PRAY FOR MORE THAN
JUST FOR OUR PROBLEMS TO GO AWAY IS, "GOD, PLEASE LET ME HANDLE
THIS RIGHT.
HELP ME TO STAY STRONG.
HELP ME NOT TO BLAME YOU.
HELP ME NOT TO QUESTION YOU."
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW CHARLES NIEMAN
BUT HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN OF GOD, HAS A CHURCH IN TEXAS, RIGHT?
SOMEWHERE IN--EL PASO, TEXAS, YEAH.
I'VE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M AT
HALF THE TIME, SO--
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE DIED WITH CANCER A FEW YEARS AGO
AND HE SAID SOMETHING TO ME THAT REALLY IMPACTED ME.
HE SAID, "TWO THINGS I TOLD GOD."
HE SAID, "NUMBER ONE, I'M NEVER GONNA ASK YOU WHY."
THAT'S A BIGGIE.
"I'M NEVER GONNA ASK YOU WHY.
AND, GOD, MY PRAYER IS 'HELP ME DO THIS RIGHT.'"
THAT MEANT SO MUCH TO ME.
"HELP ME DO THIS RIGHT.
HELP ME BE THE SAME IN FRONT OF MY CONGREGATION.
HELP ME SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT YOU, GOD, IN FRONT OF PEOPLE
AS I WOULD HAVE SAID IF SHE GOT A MIRACLE AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO
GO THROUGH THIS."
HOW MANY OF YOU ARE WITH ME TODAY?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: LET'S DON'T JUST PRAY TO GET RID OF OUR PROBLEM.
LET'S PRAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE CAN DO IT RIGHT.
HELP ME, GOD, DO THIS RIGHT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO SCRIPTURES,
ONE OF THEM IS IN ROMANS 8:26 AND IT SAYS: "FOR WE
DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRAY AS WE OUGHT TO," SO THE HOLY SPIRIT
PRAYS THROUGH US BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE WILL OF GOD.
SO PAUL STARTS OUT THERE AND HE SAYS THERE'S THINGS
WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHY THINGS HAPPEN.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WE DON'T GET IT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR.
WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT THE NEXT VERSE SAYS: "BUT WE DO KNOW THAT ALL THINGS WORK
TOGETHER FOR GOOD TO THOSE WHO LOVE GOD AND ARE CALLED
ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE."
NOW LISTEN TO ME.
SO HE'S SAYING, "LOOK, THERE'S THINGS WE DON'T KNOW BUT THERE'S
THINGS WE DO KNOW."
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEGUN TO THINK ABOUT A LOT?
I THINK WE FOCUS WAY TOO MUCH ON WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, C'MON,
AND NOT NEARLY ENOUGH ON WHAT WE DO KNOW.
I DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHY SOMETHING'S HAPPENING IN MY LIFE
OR WHY IT'S NOT GETTING OVER WITH SOONER.
I MEAN, C'MON, WE ALL WONDER, "GOD, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO
DO THIS A YEAR FROM NOW, WHY NOT NOW?
I MEAN, REALLY, DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE ME WAIT A YEAR
AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF?
IF YOU CAN DO IT, JUST DO IT NOW."
WE DON'T KNOW.
C'MON, HOW MANY OF YOU ARE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING RIGHT NOW
AND YOU JUST DON'T GET IT?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AMEN?
WE DON'T KNOW.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PRAY.
BUT WE DO KNOW.
C'MON, I WANT YOU TO LEAVE HERE TODAY DETERMINED TO FOCUS MORE
ON WHAT YOU DO KNOW THAN WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND WHAT WE DO KNOW IS IT'S GONNA COME OUT OKAY
IN THE END.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
TO BE JUST FLAT OUT HONEST, EVEN IF WE DON'T GET OUR VICTORY
WHILE WE'RE HERE ON THIS EARTH, WE ARE STILL MORE THAN
CONQUERORS BECAUSE, BOY, SOON AS WE PASS OUT OF HERE, WE GOT IT.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE LIVE HERE IS SO NOTHING
COMPARED TO ETERNITY.
AND YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING THIS MORNING ABOUT JOHN OSTEEN.
ACTUALLY, I STARTED THINKING ABOUT HIM YESTERDAY AND I
THOUGHT, NOW, GREAT MAN OF GOD.
I MEAN, BACK IN THE TIME WHEN HE WAS MINISTERING AND PREACHING,
HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPEAKERS, HAD--
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: --THIS GREAT CHURCH.
NOT THIS BUILDING BUT IN ANOTHER BUILDING AND HE JUST--SOUGHT
AFTER SPEAKER, HAD SOME OF THE BEST SPEAKERS INTO THE CHURCH,
AND YET ALL THE TIME HE'S HELPING OTHER PEOPLE AND TRYING
TO BLESS OTHER PEOPLES, HE'S FIGHTING DIFFERENT
HEALTH THINGS.
DODIE TOLD ME THAT REALLY EVEN WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER, THERE WAS
ALWAYS STUFF THAT HE WAS DEALING WITH.
NOW, I THINK DODIE SAID HE WAS ABOUT 77 WHEN HE WENT HOME TO BE
WITH THE LORD BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT REALLY THAT OLD
THESE DAYS.
AND SO IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE, WELL, WHAT A LOSS.
WHAT A WASTE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA SERVE GOD ALL YOUR LIFE, I MEAN,
DID HE REALLY HAVE TO DIE IN THAT CONDITION?
COULD HE NOT HAVE GONE OUT SOME MORE VICTORIOUS WAY?
BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I THINK'S FUNNY.
YOU KNOW, PASTOR JOHN--LISA WANTED ME TO COME TO THE CHURCH
AND DO ONE OF MY CONFERENCES FOR A LONG TIME AND SHE KEPT TRYING
TO GET HIM TO LET ME COME.
AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO.
NOT 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE ME OR DIDN'T BELIEVE IN
WOMEN PREACHERS.
HE WAS ALL FOR WOMEN BEING USED BY GOD BUT, BACK IN THOSE DAYS,
PEOPLE LIVED IN CAMP MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES AND PEOPLE LIKE
ME WHO DIDN'T HAVE A SET BUILDING TO HAVE THEIR MEETINGS
IN, THEY WERE WANTING TO USE PEOPLE'S CHURCHES TO HAVE THEIR
MEETINGS.
AND SO HIS EXPERIENCE HAD BEEN THAT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT, THEY DIDN'T TREAT THINGS
RIGHT, THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY SHOULD DO.
SO HE JUST KIND OF HAD A STANDARD THAT HE WAS JUST ACROSS
THE BOARD NOT GONNA LET PEOPLE USE THE BUILDING TO HAVE THEIR
OWN CONFERENCES IN.
SO FOR THAT REASON, HE WOULDN'T LET ME COME.
BUT AS WE KNOW, LISA'S PERSISTENT AND SO SHE
KEPT AFTER HIM.
WELL, FINALLY, HE SAID, "OKAY."
AND I MAY NOT HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OF WEEKS RIGHT BUT I
THINK HE HAD ONLY PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF WEEKS, TWO WEEKS,
BEFORE I WAS SUPPOSED TO COME.
WELL, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW ME, I'M THINKING, "WOW, THAT'S GONNA
BE A TOUGH ATMOSPHERE TO WALK INTO AND TRY TO PREACH IN."
AND I REMEMBER JOEL, HE WON'T MIND ME SAYING THIS, I GUESS.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN TELL ME LATER, BUT HE
WAS SO SCARED BECAUSE HIS DAD WANTED HIM TO BE THE ONE TO TAKE
HIS PLACE IN THE PULPIT.
HE WAS SO SCARED.
AND I REMEMBER JOEL SITTING RIGHT OVER IN HERE SOMEWHERE IN
THE OLD BUILDING AND, I MEAN, YOU WERE, LIKE, LOCKED IN.
YOU WERE--YOU NEEDED A WORD FROM GOD.
YOU WANTED A WORD FROM GOD.
BUT HERE'S THE THING THAT I THOUGHT OF.
WE DON'T KNOW WHY THINGS HAPPEN THE WAY THEY HAPPEN BUT HERE'S
WHAT WE DO KNOW TODAY.
WE KNOW TODAY THAT HE'S WATCHING THIS SERVICE FROM HEAVEN.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: HE'S NOT GONE.
HE'S JUST NOT HERE WITH US.
BUT HE'S WATCHING EVERYTHING AND I BET HE'S SAYING,
"I LIKE THAT WOMAN.
I'M GLAD I LET HER COME."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND I BET HE'S SO PROUD OF PAUL AND JOEL AND
VICTORIA AND DODIE AND ALL OF HIS KIDS AND LISA, AND I BET
HE'S SO, LIKE, "WOW, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.
LOOK AT THAT STEP OF FAITH THAT JOEL TOOK.
LOOK AT THAT BUILDING THEY'VE GOT.
LOOK AT WHAT MY KIDS HAVE DONE."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: C'MON, WE DON'T KNOW--WE DON'T KNOW WHY SOME
THINGS HAPPEN THE WAY THEY DO.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT ALL THINGS WORK OUT FOR GOOD WHEN YOU LOVE
GOD AND YOU WANT HIS WILL.
THANK YOU, JESUS.
JOYCE: WELL, IT'S FOR SURE WE DON'T KNOW WHY SOME THINGS
HAPPEN THE WAY THEY DO BUT WE DO KNOW THAT GOD'S WORD NEVER
CHANGES AND ALL THINGS WILL WORK OUT FOR GOOD WHEN WE LOVE HIM
AND WANT HIS WILL IN OUR LIFE.
SO BE DETERMINED TODAY TO FOCUS MORE ON WHAT YOU DO KNOW THAN ON
WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND IT WILL REALLY HELP YOU.
TODAY, WE'RE OFFERING YOU FOUR TEACHINGS FROM A SERIES CALLED
"WINNING LIFE'S BATTLES."
FOUR HOURS OF TEACHING ON HOW TO BE A WINNER, THAT HAS TO BE
WORTH LISTENING TO.
AND THEN A BOOK, A SMALL BOOK, CALLED
"LET GOD FIGHT YOUR BATTLES."
YOU CAN DISCOVER THE COURAGE TO RISE ABOVE THE UNKNOWN AND
RECEIVE EVERYTHING THAT GOD HAS STORED UP FOR YOU.
HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE VICTORY IN YOUR LIFE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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[MUSIC]
GINGER: WE'RE IN JERUSALEM'S OLD CITY AND IT'S VERY
BEAUTIFUL.
WE'RE ON THE ROOFTOPS, OVERLOOKING THE HUSTLE
AND BUSTLE AROUND US.
AND THE INTERESTING THING THAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE IN ISRAEL IS
THAT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A VERY PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY, THERE ARE
STILL MANY, MANY NEEDS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE TO DO AT JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES
HAND OF HOPE IS MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE.
BECAUSE WHEN WE HELP THEM PHYSICALLY, IT OPENS THEIR
HEARTS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE SPIRITUALLY.
SO HERE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DENTAL NEEDS,
FEEDING PROGRAMS, THROUGH A LOCAL CHURCH THAT WE'RE VERY
GRATEFUL TO BE CONNECTED WITH.
WE'VE BEEN SHARING CHRIST IN MANY, MANY WAYS TO DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES HERE, TO THE JEWISH ISRAELI COMMUNITY
AS WELL AS THE ARAB ISRAELI COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE ABLE TOGETHER TO MAKE A HUGE IMPACT FOR CHRIST.
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