-Welcome back.
  -I'm actually more used to  sitting here across from you
  than I am seeing you  out in the real world.
  -I know.  -It's strange.
  -It's very strange, yeah,  because we've been lucky enough
  to run into each other in  the real world,
  but it's been a while.
  But you did -- you actually got
  to hang out with  my son this summer.
  -Ashe.
  -Yeah, because you and Mary are  friends with my in-laws.
  -Yes.
  -And you were at  a sporting event
  that my wife brought  my 2-year-old son to.
  -Pig racing.  -Pig racing.
  This is a true thing.
  -Yeah, mini pigs.  Like, many mini pigs in a race.
  And they even had a trough  that had water in it.
  So they'd race a couple times,  then jump in and swim.
  And the motivation was  a plate -- true -- of Oreos.
  -Really?
  That's how you get a pig to run?  -Yeah. Yeah.
  -And, so, do they  run around a track? A lap?
  -Once.  -Okay.
  -So it's like,  "And they're off!"
  Wasn't that great?"
  -So that seems like --  -But let's go back to Ashe.
  -Yeah.  -What a wonderful young man.
  -Wonderful young man.
  And I will tell you, though,
  he's a wonderful kid  and I love him,
  but he told me  about the pig race,
  and there were almost none  of those details.
  As a 2-year-old,  basically all he could tell me
  was they were pigs.
  -You want to know why?  -Why?
  -Because he blocked it.
  Because to be entertaining  with such a short race,
  the guy who had the pigs made up  all these horrible names,
  like Baco Bits and  Little Bacon Running,
  you know, and things like that.
  And I'm sure it just,  you know, horrified him.
  -Yeah, well, 'cause that's  a real reminder
  to the children there that  these will eventually be food.
  -Yeah.
  -"And, by the way, we're eating  all of them, even the winner.
  Like, nobody can run their way  out of their fates here, yeah."
  -Oreo-basted pig.
  -If you taste a piece of bacon
  that has a little bit of Oreo  in it, that was your winner.
  Yeah, that was your winner.
  Look, any one of  the Emmys is a winner,
  so I don't want this  to be hard on you,
  but you were nominated  for an Emmy.
  -That was good.  I almost believed that.
  -Yeah, so,  you were at the Emmys.
  -Yes, I was.
  -Nominated for your work on  "The Good Place,"
  as well you should be.
  How was your Emmy experience?
  -Well, you know, you're very
  philosophical  and calm and relaxed,
  right up until about  2 minutes before
  they call your name --  or don't...
  -Yeah.
  -...and for about 5 minutes  afterwards, if they don't,
  where you're busy scrambling  to be philosophical,
  you know, and see whether or not  you're believable when you,
  "Oh, yeah.
  No, no.  That's a great choice.
  I told you."  You know, that kind of stuff.
  And then we waited for  the commercial to be polite.
  And they have seat fillers,  so no one knows --
  First off, no one  even knows you're there,
  'cause we're all  so self-absorbed.
  -Right.  -You know, it doesn't matter.
  So, we --  Or at least this one is.
  So, we got up and went
  to this great restaurant  in downtown L.A.
  -So that was it. You were out.
  -7:00,  I was fairly well-hammered
  on a couple of tequilas  with Mary,
  you know, and went home,  and we were in bed by 9:00.
  Just had the best evening.
  -That's amazing.  -Yeah.
  -I will say it is --  With the Creative Arts Emmys,
  which is the week before,  our writing staff was nominated,
  and it was the first award  of a three-hour night.
  And our writing --  I wasn't there,
  but our whole  writing staff was there.
  And they announced it. We lost.
  And, immediately, one of  the guys --
  -[ Coughing ] Loser.  Sorry.
  -Yeah, no, that's fine.  It's fine.
  Again, I wasn't there.  -No, no, no, no.
  -I mean, I wasn't a sucker  who actually went.
  [ Laughs ]
  [ Cheers and applause ]
  -Hey!  -Hey!
  We are friends!
  -You know who else was  a sucker was --
  Larry David was sitting right  in front of me.
  -Well that was --  I will say I really enjoyed it,
  'cause there was a shot.
  I was aware you were there  because, oh, you know,
  I'm lucky enough to know you
  I'm lucky enough  to know Larry a little bit.
  Did Larry stay?
  I would assume  he would also leave.
  -I think he had to do a bit.  -Oh, he did have to do a bit.
  -He had to present.  -He had to present.
  -Right.  -Now, that's the true sucker.
  -So he didn't get home until...
  -Yeah, that is like --  So, you stay, you lose,
  and then you  still have to do stuff.
  -When he came up right before  the show started,
  he goes --  he looked at me and went,
  "You and I have a  1-in-100 chance of winning."
  I went, "That's not true,"
  harboring the thought  that I might win.
  -Yeah.
  -He was right.  -Yeah.
  Yeah, you were like,  "That's not true, Larry.
  You have a 1-in-100 chance."
  I want to mention "Cheers"
  and I want to talk to you more  to you after the commercial.
  But "The Good Place"
  had a fantastic  season finale at Season 2.
  [ Cheers and applause ]  -Are you watching?
  -And there was  a wonderful moment.
  And, obviously, the creator  of the show, Mike Schur,
  is a huge "Cheers" fan, as are  millions and millions of people.
  But he put you back  behind the bar.
  Your character got to  stand behind the bar.
  And for anyone who's  a fan of television,
  that was a -- You know, it was  a real goose-bumps moment.
  Did you feel immediately natural  being behind the bar again?
  -No.  -Okay.
  -No, seriously.
  It took me a year and a half of  playing "Cheers," Sam Malone.
  My voice changed just now.  I'm starting to quaver.
  I'm getting nervous and sick.  I never went to bars.
  I was the guy who -- I never  picked up women kind of thing.
  The woman would have to be  standing naked in front of me,
  and I would go, "Me?"
  You know?
  So playing Sam Malone was an
  anathema to me  for the longest time.
  So going back was --  All of a sudden,
  I was full of insecurity and  just felt horrible.
  -It did not look horrible,
  but I guess that's  acting right there, yeah.
  -No, you can --  If you watch the scene,
  you'll notice that I would try  to remember, "What did I do?
  Oh, I used wash shot glasses.
  Yeah. And then I have  a towel over my shoulder.
  Yeah, I'll do the towel thing."
  And you can see the towel  come up and down like 40 times.
  -It's actually funny.  I had never thought about that.
  But when you said, Sam Malone  was always washing shot glasses.
  That seems like --
  And I don't think anyone  on that show ever did a shot.
  -No. Beer.  -Beer. Everybody drank beer.
  -Yeah.  I went to bartender school
  and worked my little butt off  to learn how to make drinks.
  And the first month  of shooting, I was making
  Manhattans and grasshoppers  and all sorts of weird drinks.
  And then it dawned on me, they  didn't give a [bleep] about --
  They want their jokes said well  and on time, you know?
  And they're shooting you  above your hands,
  so all you see is this,  so I went...
  -And the towel.  We all loved the towel.
  That was so great.
     
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