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fresh pressed science. hi i'm Gabi
Serrato Marks and I am a PhD student up
here at MIT
my name is Susanna Harris I you can find
me on twitter and instagram at @Susannalharris
and I am a starting my fifth year
of my PhD in microbiology down at the
University of North Carolina in Chapel
Hill we are far away but we're still
hanging out here on Fresh Pressed science
thank you for being here with us so I'm
down in Chapel Hill and so Gabi and I
have never actually met in person
probably in the last couple months
racked up plenty of hours of yeah
probably like anyone want to estimate
we've done lots of the video calls are
probably the dozens of video calls at
least hi hi this is my dog you probably
know that but Gabby and I talk outside
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there's so many people who are our
friends online who are the most amazing
people my job is all about looking at
different bacteria that live on the
plant roots and looking at how these
bacteria are communicating with each
other and figuring out if that affects
the entire community that's living there
the plant health soil health that sort
of stuff I study how bacteria stick
together in communities on plant roots
the reason we're studying this is that
we are all probably pretty familiar that
there are a lot of chemicals and things
used to promote plant growth and to
protect plants from pests things like
that so anything that's protecting them
from fungus or a bacterium or even like
a small insect we lost those now it
would be we couldn't feed everyone but
we know that sometimes those chemicals
can be very dangerous to the environment
and so what some scientists are wanting
to do is to create sort of a probiotics
so the same reason that you would eat
yogurt to benefit your gastrointestinal
health plants don't have stomachs they
have roots that's where they take up
their nutrients and so we're interested
in looking at the bacteria and things
that stick to the roots and help the
plant to grow and resist different
diseases
that's so cool I've never heard your
full explanation of it like I've seen it
written but I've never heard it from you
and I feel like it's a different thing
so it's really cool to hear what you
actually study and like the plant
anybody play over Alex so freaking cool
I had no idea so that's that's what I
study is how bacteria stick together and
informed a sticky biofilm the same way
you can think of like humans live in big
groups but they also form infrastructure
it's not like you go to a city and
everyone's just like standing around and
sleeps with Erlang we build buildings
and things and so the entire city
when you say city it includes the
building the people all of the different
resources that people use is the same
thing as saying file film so a biofilm
means the bacteria living within this
big matrix and that matrix is called
biofilm as well that sticky adhesive
biofilm is what holds the bacteria all
together and allows them to have these
really complex behaviors I don't think
biofilm was something you can agree with
by the way I heard you say she said
biofilm and I agree I love that but I
don't think you can agree with biofilm
just I just had to call you out on that
I I am in favor naturally-occurring
process also fire is a yes I'm a
geologist I am a grad student here at
MIT and I study past climate change
using cave rocks so I go to caves that
are all over the place my main project
is in Northeast Mexico and we use cave
monitoring testing what the waters have
in them and how they form stalagmites
and then actually sampling stalagmites
sometimes and we look at weather in the
past it was wet or dry how much how
often it was how often there were
droughts versus wet periods and what
drives those processes so we want to
know about that because we're still
figuring out in a lot of places how
climate change will impact weather
patterns and how the wet or dry cycles
will change and to understand those
things we really need the background of
how it changed in the past so I'm really
interested in the climate of the past
2000 years especially because I'm
interested in human climate interactions
I'm working right now on some
stalagmites from northeast Mexico in San
Luis Potosi and Tamaulipas which are
kind of north central and one area is
really dry and one area is a lot wetter
so
I'm really excited to see what we get so
far I have no results just some dates of
how old the stalagmites are yeah that's
true there's no way to tell how old they
are without doing chemical dating on
them that's so rude
maybe the only plant root lady I know so
whatever okay I do it sometimes I'm not
very good at it I often fall and get a
little bit hurt I can show you some of
my scars I think you could see my hand
scar this guy this was like a deep cut I
probably should have gotten stitches
before but anyway yes I do field work
pretty much once a year and I kind of
like caves medium like I'm not someone
who loves going caving all the time I
also don't hate it I sort of tolerate it
and I'm learning to like it as I get
more used to it G all have many trades
and mistress of knot
I love that you yeah I'm fluent in
Spanish
I was totally bilingual like native
speaker of both until I was five and
then we stopped speaking Spanish in my
house so I lost my Spanish until I was
in like sixth seventh eighth grade and I
started learning it again and now I'm
back to fluent so I'm not and I say I'm
not a native Spanish speaker because I
had to sort of relearn it my mom is
Mexican and my dad is American so I am I
used to say I'm half Mexican but now I
say I'm Mexican American with the -
because I believe that you're not half
anything you just have a lot of
different identities and it all comes
into one person like when I first saw
you I certainly would not have thought
that at all what has what has it been
like because you have the option of
passing in a system that really favors
being just white so I have all of the
white privilege I can look completely
white and choose not to tell anyone
anything
and similarly I'm also part of the queer
community and that's something that I
can choose to tell people or not then I
also have an invisible physical
disability so there's a lot of things
about me that I like that are important
to me that I kind of hold close to
myself and they're part of my identity
but you can't necessarily see them so
that's something that I think about a
lot with science and science
communication and representation because
I do want to try to be representation
for people with disabilities in science
and show that it is possible to still
carve out a place that you can be
successful and things along those lines
because when I was first starting out in
grad school I felt like there was nobody
like me and now that I have a lot more
community on Instagram and Twitter and I
call them on my internet friends like
you Susannah I feel a lot less alone and
so I kind of want to be able to do that
for other people and make connections
with people with similar experiences
my dad doesn't speak Spanish and my
brother was born when I was four and my
dad got really frustrated that we could
all speak Spanish and he couldn't and so
to kind of maintain family harmony we
switched to English only but there was
still some words as a kid that I didn't
know the English word for so like I
still forget the thing you use when
you're cooking bean sauce tongs I still
forget every time forget the word for
tongs there's some interesting like
bilingual stuff even though we stopped
so if you are born in the US and maybe
you don't speak Spanish because your
parents wanted you to have exclusively
an American accent and they didn't want
you to have an accident like to speak
Spanish because they had trouble with
that things along those lines like
there's tons of reasons why people don't
speak Spanish but for me it is an
important part of it because it's always
been important to my family that I
pronounce Spanish words correctly
appropriately did not have a really
thick American accent or English accent
when I'm speaking Spanish so that was
part of it for me and also just that I
can communicate with my family who are
still in Mexico that way we can have a
deeper connection I think so for me it
was a big part of forming my Mexican
American identity and figuring out who I
am even if I blend doesn't work I want
to hear all about your like pH
depression and your cool side stuff twos
I myself
manage clinical depression it's
something that I have a family history
of as as a lot of people do in academia
and I didn't realize how normal it
really was until this big study came out
in nature biotech back in March that
found of about two thousand online
respondents approximately forty percent
would be identified as clinically
depressed or having a general anxiety
disorder the way they found this was
that they actually had the participants
respond to the same questions as you
would in a doctor's office and so that
forty percent number I heard it made me
feel kind of better because I if you
haven't seen it already there's a video
of me talking about my history of mental
health it can be a bit triggering and so
if people are upset I would I would urge
you not to watch it I don't think you
know if it will be upsetting
there's no need but I talked about my
history of mental health and the
feelings of isolation associated with it
and when I saw this 40 percent statistic
I really thought that seems about right
but then also if I looked around a room
of 200 people there's no way I would
think that eighty of them might be
suffering from the same sort of problems
that's really where peace depression was
born the next step is that I shared a
little bit of about my story I got other
people to share started back in March
that of this year March 2018 so we're
coming right up on our five month
looniversity and we're getting close to
forty five hundred followers on
Instagram that's where it started we're
on Twitter now thank you it was really
it really felt good
my biggest fear did was that I would go
into campus and like nobody would want
to talk to me because sometimes there's
there's definitely still a huge stigma
around mental illness even though
there's so many of us and and that's
really where I want pH depression to be
is to just talk about mental illness
talk about everything
it's called peace depression but it
it's from anxiety to depression to
borderline personality disorder
alcoholism other substance abuse PTSD
ADHD there's so many different things
that so many people feel ashamed of and
I think in reality everyone has
something that they are struggling
against and as an exceptionally
privileged person I you know I'm a
cisgendered white woman I am also in the
queer community but you know I'm
bisexual and of all the people in the
queer community community I think a
bisexual woman is the most accepted I'm
in a very secure place the University of
North Carolina is amazing and incredibly
supportive and it was still very hard to
deal with these things my pie in the sky
idea would be to create a crowd-sourced
Wikipedia esque page basically a big
grid that's searchable by University and
any a university that does research and
has graduate students that you can
search for that and we basically have
like 10 metrics that it would be graded
on we give them a grade if they have all
these different pieces and have links
for their website so it might be do they
have a free counseling service
do they have an operated website do they
have do they take all these different
kinds of medical insurance things like
that and one that would be a great
resource for our members to be able to
you know if I'm struggling I'm at the
University of North Carolina I can type
that into the wicket this like big page
pull it up and see what they have but
really what could be cool with this is
that maybe we could start putting
pressure on institutions because these
kinds of changes the support needs to
start coming from the top down I think
there's a really cool grass movements
thing happening right now but I think
the institutions the grant fulfillment
places NIH NSF they need to be the ones
telling institutions as well that you
can't you can't work your people into
the ground and actually supporting
mental health is going to make people
more productive it's
that that's something that doesn't exist
anywhere like a rape my professors for
mental healthcare he just doesn't exist
not even for definitely not for
university systems and even like for
regular doctors outside of the
university it's so hard to find out
who's good I don't I don't know I don't
know much about it I think we need a
bomb at assess we need someone to host
people who know how to run this stuff
but with this big of a community and by
the way the people in this community are
the best humans around because they are
in academia they so they're super
motivated and they have some kind of
emotional understanding of themselves
they've they've had to face a couple
demons and and they're so willing to
help others they've been really amazing
so it's it's been a lovely social
experiment it's taking off faster than I
would have ever imagined I think it's
been really cool how inclusive he's been
of all kinds of mental health struggles
and it's been a place where I can both
feel community and learn from people who
are struggling with something really
different from what I go through and so
I found that to be like it's a huge
benefit of just following the ph
depression Instagram pages that's it I
get a lot out of it from just one place
so I think what you're doing is really
cool we wanted to have a chance where we
could talk about interesting science and
interesting topics from an non expert
perspective so we kind of shifted that
from generally interesting topics to
reading slightly difficult to understand
because it's not in our field brand new
research and talking to the authors so
that we could figure out exactly what
we're supposed to get out of the paper
and get kind of the background on how
they do the research we're both trained
researchers and science communicators
and one of the misconceptions is that if
you're a scientist you can read all
science that's misconception number one
we are learning every single week that
that is not true
the misconception the second one is
really that that if
Media wants to know what we're doing
they should read our papers and that
goes back to the first point of I'm
really good at reading microbiology
papers because I'm coming up on like
nine years of doing that including
undergrad where I worked in a lab last
week when we talked about proteins which
were in bacteria both of us had no idea
what's going on when I was editing that
video it was amazing I was like no not
that
that's this is wrong we started this
because we wanted to highlight that
disconnect we want to kind of push
scientists to actually reach out to the
media and try to explain their stuff I
think sometimes it gets picked up and
mishandled by the media and even
probably for good intent a lot of people
really want to understand the science
and it's up to us as scientists to make
it accessible yeah and I should add that
we're not like trying to hate on science
writers or say that like the media does
it all wrong with both of us right
public facing science content so we know
that it's really challenging but I think
it's more the point is to show everyone
that even scientists who are trained at
research trained to read papers quickly
and thoroughly at the same time even we
really really struggle with stuff so
it's been so interesting to learn about
these different topics biostats with
Rebecca was a whole new world and she
taught me so many thing about antibiotic
thing that I think a lot of the general
public doesn't know is that you can
totally email scientists I think a great
way to do that is online you can go and
tweet at them if they're small enough
but usually if you have any question
about their science find that first
author in the paper and send them an
email because that is the person who's
gonna be really exciting it back to you
they're gonna be able to explain stuff
and you can also ask them for a PDF of
the paper if you don't have access to
the full text versions you can email
them and say like from your abstract I
could get access to I have these
questions but I would love to read your
full paper so if you could send it to me
then I'll probably have more questions
and then you can build kind of a
relationship with that scientist and a
lot of times well I guess it really
depends on the field but sometimes the
first author of the paper will be a
student it'll be a trainee either a
postdoc maybe or a grad student of some
sort so they're people who are still
really excited
want to talk to brand-new people we're
not really getting outside of our echo
chamber to be honest right now we would
love with help doing that right now
we're kind of just getting out of our
silos microbiologists and
paleoclimatologists don't hang out and
talk science I mean I think your stuff
is super cool and oftentimes like none
experts have the best questions yeah
they have hard questions to make you
really think about the research you're
doing and I love your tiny plant roots
every time you post a picture of I know
that's like not really the point is like
the tiny seedlings are just the vessel
for everything else but I love those
tiny things I'm like yeah grow girls in
bacteria I like really want to root for
them if anyone has ideas of how to get
this out to more general audience please
go ahead and like subscribe comments
that will help us spread post something
on your Facebook post something on your
Instagram wait man people post pictures
of their toast including me I have done
the toast picture so toast picture you
can do one story about how important
science communication is but it also
means so so much to me and I think
probably do you too when people you that
we know or that we don't know say like I
like what you're doing please keep doing
it or like this is something that I wish
you could do better or differently and
that's so helpful to hear so if there's
something that you think we could be
doing differently please tell us because
we're really excited about making this a
better way to talk about science we've
also have been to comms icon events and
it's a special conference where they
train you to be a science communicator
those have research skills and
communication skills which has been
extremely helpful for me the most
important thing that they teach you that
you can apply to everything in your life
is that whatever you have to say is
important and your opinion and your I
guess not just opinion but your expert
analysis of stuff does matter and it is
important and no matter what it is that
you're an expert in like if you're an
expert in wood grains and like how
different woods should be used for tree
houses like I want to hear about that
I'm really excited to hear about what
people love and are really passionate
about
I think science communication is a cool
way to get scientists to talk about
those things that really matter to them
if you ask someone if they like science
they might say no if you ask someone
have you ever liked a treehouse they'll
probably say yeah or no cuz I fell out
of one and you still want to talk about
that I think too often science is
separated from the world yeah general
see science everywhere and being able to
communicate that science is not a text
book it's a pair of sunglasses that you
put over your eyes and suddenly things
make a little more sense or they're more
predictable or you can find answers
where you otherwise couldn't and we
could talk to people who already have a
youtube presence and get some other site
communicators on here I think that'd be
awesome whether or not anyone would give
us the time of day I don't know I think
what we're gonna try to do is do two
weeks in a row that are paper-based so
we're gonna talk about a topic we're
going to talk about the scientific paper
that's related to that and then maybe we
will do the week of maybe potpourri of
whatever we want to talk about not the
smelly stuff we'll talk about science
communication or education ethics or
whatever else
hashtag collab is a food and drink I
love food I love I do science I have my
astronaut shirt on which goes to support
the thing that Emily calendar le does
the like space camp for girls type thing
so these are women astronauts so we both
are very on theme the only the only one
I know is Sally Ride mae Jemison oh I
believe was the first black woman space
Tereshkova was the first woman overall
she was Russian and I'm sorry is Iranian
there ladies I fangirl so hard when we
talked to anyone what do you want to do
with the rest of your life
crickets I would like to do full-time
science Plus communication and I think
my currently my ideal job title would be
something like Digital Content producer
where I get to do a mix of writing and
scripting for videos and working with a
big team of people to make awesome
science content I kinda like the idea of
getting into a job that's on the
business side of science I think it
would be cool to work for a company
working between their scientists and
their their business and marketing
groups so running science communication
programs a lot of different chemical
companies now really want to have an
outreach component to educate their own
scientists to be able to represent the
community I love kids but talking to
adults is actually my favorite because
they're so much more difficult
kids are like sponges you throw ten
facts at them and they'll remember for
you tell an adult one thing and they're
gonna give you five reasons why you're
wrong and the best thing you can have
out of an interaction with adults is for
them to leave questioning if they walk
away from you and they look up something
that you have given them a resource to
you have absolutely won them over in
terms of science communication if you
have any further questions feel free to
send us messages let us know if you or
anyone else has a paper that you've been
on so that could be any time the last
like five ish years is preferred ten
years is okay we'll spin it around
something that is important today in the
news media and we'll have you come on
you can be the eighteenth author that's
fine we just want to talk to you it's
not gonna be related to what we do and
so the questions will be really basic
let us know if you have that again you
can find me on both Twitter and
Instagram and from there you can
navigate over to see my other projects
on pH depression as well as where Gabby
and I both met which is the side
community please follow them if you're
not and you can find me as at G Serato
mark find the links down below follow
this so I can be support what they're
doing it's a really cool crew yeah thank
you
tell us your topics and we will discuss
your jazz about chocolate and he wants
to talk about the science of chocolate
we'll find somebody to talk about
science of chocolate and we will stuff
our faces
I love all you guys they all are amazing
okay so did my plant before we end so
really my ZZ plant what kind of things
you think the roots have well the
bacteria that are the predominate on
roots in general occur in five major
four major clades which are
proteobacteria Firmicutes actonel
bacteria and Bacteroides Bacteroides I
hope that's what I have I'm sure that
you do thank you so much for joining us
thank you for coming on I'm Susanna L
Harris thanks for showing up at the side
community and checking out our Nexus
YouTube channel bye everyone
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